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The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Names ... - 3/9/2010 12:39:34 AM   
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What's in a name? According to recent research, the more unique the moniker you bestow on your little ones, the more narcissistic you may be.

Even Brangelina, for all their charity work, are rather self-involved, according to this study. And for an even stranger twist, this week we learn Shiloh would rather go by "John." Wrong gender, sure, but maybe she's onto something (or precociously read the study and didn't want her parents to be seen in such a disparaging light).

At five-months pregnant, my husband and I have also given a lot of thought to what we would name our first son. After I ix-nayed his suggestions of Panthro and Maximus, we settled on a simple family name: Henry.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/9/2010 6:00:28 AM   
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good call on whoever "i" is. 10 bucks says any kid named Maximus will be eating dirt at the playground :-/ bully's discriminate against names first and foremost.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/9/2010 8:32:18 AM   
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I wouldn't consider my children's names weird, but they are not names you would consider extremely popular either.

I guess for me, we chose the names we did because we DIDN'T want our kids to be one of a dozen John's, Nicholas's, Madison's or Olivia's. I wanted to be able to say my child's name in a crowd and NOT have to say, "No! THAT Ethan." because I had a half a dozen kids turn and look at me. I wanted something different.

If that's narcissistic - so be it.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/9/2010 8:32:24 AM   
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Maybe some are. But some parents whose kids have normal names are narcissists too.

It is developmentally normal for kids to want to change their name, or wish they had a different one, even kids with common names.

And what about those of us whose children have "unique" names in one country but normal names in the other? Am I narcissistic here but sane in my husband's country? If we'd given our kids American names, would I be sane here and a narcissist when in his country?

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/9/2010 8:35:49 AM   
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And what about those of us whose children have "unique" names in one country but normal names in the other? Am I narcissistic here but sane in my husband's country? If we'd given our kids American names, would I be sane here and a narcissist when in his country?


That could also go for different parts of the same country too!!

And who gets to decide what is considered a "normal" name?

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/9/2010 8:46:01 AM   
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I think they were referring more to names like Moon Unit or Dweezil.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/9/2010 8:46:02 AM   
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Most of the time a child's name is something that the parents have thought long and hard about. There are so many factors that have gone into the selection, family ties, culture, significant meaning, etc. There are a multitude of factors that we, the casual observer, know nothing about. Dismissing their selection as narcissistic when we cannot possibly know the thinking that went into the name is rather rude.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/9/2010 8:48:26 AM   
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And what about those of us who choose family names that are unique and choose names because of their meaning.....

LOL

I think we put way to much thought into WHY other people pick the names they do....let's be honest. It is none of our business WHY someone picks the name they do (other than curiosity as where it came from)...and most parents pick the names they do because they LIKE the name. Period. Lol

And...case in point....Angelina named Shiloh shiloh because it was a family name on her side...and was supposed to have been her brother's middle name, but his parents ended up choosing a different name for him in the end. Angelina asked him if she could name her daughter Shiloh..and he was thrilled. It was almost like having his niece named for him.....

so if honoring a family member is narcissistic.....a lot of us are. (not saying she isn't...just saying..that isn't why she picked the name...lol)

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/9/2010 9:43:37 AM   
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garsy--you realize you just posted TWO of my kids' first names??? We have a reason why we chose each name.

ds1--great grandfather, grandfather
ds2--great great grandfather, great great grandfather
ds3--uncle (although we chose another form, but use uncles nick name), father
ds4--noone! But, God told us his name and birthday when he "happened"

Over on another forum there has been much talk about names. More than one person hated their name enough that they changed it when they started college/moved to a new location. Others, while they may not like their name have kept it, jsut because it is part of who they are.

I have a fairly common name and have gone through periods of hating my name. I don't use the traditional spelling but people can't even get the traditional spelling correct! And that's just the nick name. They get my formal name wrong most of the time.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/9/2010 8:41:50 PM   
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garsy--you realize you just posted TWO of my kids' first names??? We have a reason why we chose each name.


And that's fine. I didn't mean to offend at all! But looking at the number of babies born the same years as my younger ones in the nursery at the same time as my little ones - WITH those names I am still glad we didn't desire those names.

I'm really glad those names are significant and mean something to so many. But they were very common names when my children were born and they didn't hold any special significance to ME and I wanted something different for the reasons I stated before.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/9/2010 9:02:33 PM   
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garcy--ops!!! I forgot that you don't know me. I certainly was not offended! I just thought it was funny. We never thought to look at the most popular names when naming our kids.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/10/2010 1:19:11 AM   
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I would disagree with this. The people who are most in to themselves actually seem to pick names that they think are popular. They seem to be stuck on their image and a commom popular name would suit them more. Of course, that does not mean using a common name makes you self centered, I just happened to observe a while ago that the really uppity self centered people tended to use the most common and "yuppy" type name possible.

On the other hand, have you read Freakonomics? It gives a lot of statistics about why someone would chose a name related to income and such. It presents the idea of which came first, the chicken or the egg. Children with highly unusual names are more likely to commit crimes and not succeed. However, that being said, people who pick the highly unusual names are more likely to have had less success in life, and children tend to turn out like their parents.
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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/10/2010 11:54:24 AM   
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We did look at the list of popular names when choosing a name for our new arrival. We wanted a name that wasn't so odd that no one could spell it or say it, but also wouldn't be so common that he would be one of 5 or 6 with the same name in his classes. I really liked most of the popular names in the top 10 and top 25, but we chose one just outside of that ranking.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/10/2010 12:10:34 PM   
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It is developmentally normal for kids to want to change their name, or wish they had a different one, even kids with common names.

YUP...my name is Sarah. The year I was born it was #11 on the SS's name list for female babies born that year. And yet I have never really liked it too much. Sure it's a nice name, not too weird and easy to spell, but I just don't like it.

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so if honoring a family member is narcissistic.....a lot of us are.

YUP...Emery might not mean anything to anyone else, but to my FIL, it meant the world to learn that one of his grandkids was named after him. Others might not like the name Gregory, but to my hubby it is a memory of his only brother who died over 20 years ago. Justice might not be a very popular name, but it means a LOT to us. I would not say we are narcissistic though just because those are a few of the names we have chosen for our kids.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/10/2010 2:01:04 PM   
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We thought as much about what kinds of nicknames our kids would have as we did what their names would mean to us. How many kids named Charles were called 'Upchuck' in school, KWIM.... and there was a kid I went to school with whose name was Richard, and the boys LOVED calling him by his nickname- you catchin' my drift?

I think names should have some meaning besides being the moniker of mom's favorite soap opera character, but I wouldn't assume that a unique or odd name is because the parents are narcissistic. Emma came really REALLY close to being named Daisy.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/10/2010 11:04:03 PM   
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Then there were the names that rhymed with unfortunate events or waste.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/11/2010 8:27:00 AM   
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I would think that people who name their children after themselves would be considered more narcissistic. I mean, look at George Foreman. All of his boys are named George. And he did that specifically because he wanted them to be noticed.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/11/2010 9:08:29 AM   
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We know a man once who's name was James, and he named his son James Jr. and his daughter Jamese (pronounced Jam-ee-see).

I did work with a woman who named her twins Daniel and Danielle, after their father. But she was widowed while pregnant with them, so that one was sort of understandable.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/11/2010 10:02:20 AM   
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I would think that people who name their children after themselves would be considered more narcissistic. I mean, look at George Foreman. All of his boys are named George. And he did that specifically because he wanted them to be noticed.


That is a great point! How many "traditionalists" who would label Apple's mom narcissistic immediately have the same thought when a man desires to name the "chip off the ol' block" after him?

Some of the most unique male nicknames that I have seen IRL were simply creative ways to get around the problems created with three or four generations of men insist on naming the first born after them.
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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/11/2010 10:02:37 AM   
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My bf's family is like that. His dad is Jack, his brother is Jack, his sister is Jackie, and his nephew (Jack's son) is Jack. Very confusing.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/11/2010 11:36:44 AM   
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quote:

I would think that people who name their children after themselves would be considered more narcissistic.


ditto that..

I HATE when people name their kids_______ ________ JR.

The kid should have his own identity.

I don't mind so much if the dad is, say, John Robert,

and the kids is then named Daniel John or Daniel Robert...then there is a passing on of a name without confusing everyone and their mother.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/11/2010 12:29:54 PM   
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I had friends who named their daughter "Dawn" never even thinking that there was anything in common with her father's name "Don". Apparently they figured it out when the girl became a teen and started getting phone calls. It surprised them to have young women calling for "Don"... umm... not that one.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/11/2010 1:24:51 PM   
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FWIW, I like the name Shiloh. It does mean peace. I knew several parents that used it as a middle name long before Angelina had her Shiloh.
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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/11/2010 1:44:06 PM   
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OneofHisJewels, I am with you. I love the name Shiloh and have considered it as a middle name if we have another girl.

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RE: The Shiloh Effect -- Moms Who Opt for Weird Baby Na... - 3/11/2010 2:21:08 PM   
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OneofHisJewels, I am with you. I love the name Shiloh and have considered it as a middle name if we have another girl.

I think it's a great name. In fact a really good friend of mine changed her name to Shiloh after a very trouble filled, abusive, childhood. She wanted a clean break from her parents and she finally found peace with a foster care mother whom ended up adopting her (and her 3 younger siblings) and allowed her to change her name at 16. Shiloh wasn't to terribly popular way back in the mid 80's, but it truly fit my friend and her situation.

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